1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,520 Dr. Williamson, as an anthropologist, could you tell us how you became interested in finding 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,320 fosters wild, who is doing words in anthropology? 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Well, it's quite a long story, but it covers quite a long period too. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:28,000 And I might say that it really began while I was working in Arizona, preparing to do some 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,520 research in Mexico amongst the Indian tribes down there. 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:39,600 I went down into Mexico and worked for some time, but my health became quite bad down 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,680 there and my doctor advised that I go to more northern climate for some time. 8 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:52,800 I decided that I would work with the Chippewa Indians and also some of the Tsu-Ling tribes 9 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,800 in the North Dakota. 10 00:00:53,800 --> 00:01:01,440 After I aligned, I began to collect legends which I felt would make a fine children's 11 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,440 book. 12 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Many of these legends would be very interesting to children. 13 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:16,040 Many of these stories and so-called myths of these ancient people include a great deal 14 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,040 of phenomena which might be regarded as foster phenomena. 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:29,480 For instance, the Chippewa Indians of Canada and the northern part of the United States 16 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,480 speak of the Jin Gwyn, which translated means earth-rumors. 17 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:44,680 And they also speak of flying wheels or flying boats during the Palo so that also we find 18 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:53,640 amongst the Navajo Indians and the Pai Indians of the south-west, legends of the Halusus, 19 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,800 the little people, and they are supposed to have flown over this country many hundreds 20 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:06,960 of years ago according to these Indian legends in what the Indians call flying boats. 21 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:14,120 I became interested in this because there seemed to be so much of this type of story amongst 22 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,200 our American Indians, not only the tribes I mentioned but practically every tribe in 23 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,200 the United States. 24 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Also, I found that primitive people all over the world have stories. 25 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:31,200 We find stories in India, on flying boats also. 26 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:37,560 About this time, I happened to pick up Donald Keyho's book, which was one of the first books 27 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,680 out on the sources, the title of which was The Flying Saucers Areal. 28 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:51,240 I was very impressed with Mr. Keyho's book and the idea that the Saucers were interplanetary 29 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,760 first figures itself to me. 30 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:03,760 However, I could say here that I always felt that other planets besides earth could be inhabited. 31 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:11,680 In my study, the anthropology even seemed very illogical to think that the earth would 32 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:17,160 be the only planet out of billions upon billions of earths that would be the only place where 33 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,160 a man might be found. 34 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,920 However, I never gave the Saucers a moment and much thought until I ran across it in these 35 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:26,920 legends. 36 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:33,920 Until I read Mr. Keyho's book, I then began to accumulate more legends of this type. 37 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Before that, I was not just collecting Saucer legends. 38 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,920 When I looked into it, why are they facts? 39 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,920 The fly disorders were really astounding. 40 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:50,920 I got back to Arizona where I had my home and met my wife. 41 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,920 She had been staying in Arizona doing independent research along anthropological lines. 42 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:06,920 When I arrived home in March of 52, why we compared note and she had also found a great 43 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,920 source of material which compared with my own. 44 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,920 So then we really became interested in the Saucer phenomena in earnest. 45 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,920 And even that other people who are also interested in starting the flying Saucers? 46 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Oh yes. 47 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,920 There are friends of ours who were very close to us in Northern Arizona. 48 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:36,920 He is not professional in anthropology but he is very, very interested in the archaeology 49 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:44,920 of our state and he is also interested in many ancient things and in collections. 50 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:53,920 He happened to come down one evening to our home to visit and we brought out many of my 51 00:04:53,920 --> 00:05:00,920 records that I had been making in the Northern part of the United States and I read some of my legends. 52 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,920 This reception got around the Saucers. 53 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,920 It was inevitable that it would. 54 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:13,920 And we suggested the different pros and cons, the possibility that they might be from Russia 55 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,920 or from Spain or they might be a secret to development of the United States. 56 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Or that they might be a number of things that have already been discussed by different scientists. 57 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,920 And the idea that they might be in a planetary was also discussed. 58 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:41,920 And I asked my friend if these Saucers are being controlled by intelligent beings, 59 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,920 they must be more intelligent than we are since they have conductors and spaceships. 60 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,920 And we don't have any such thing as yet. 61 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:57,920 And that's why they must also be able to speak English perhaps, 62 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,920 which is very easily explained from an anthropological standpoint. 63 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,920 If they have been coming to Earth for a long time, which it looks like they have, 64 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:12,920 would he or she now be able to speak the language and perhaps these many languages avert 65 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,920 and also to more our code systems? 66 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:24,920 So I suggest to be having the possibility that we might get a hold of an amateur or handmade operator 67 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:31,920 and send out most codes and try for something. 68 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,920 We really didn't have any hopes that we would succeed 69 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,920 because if they were out there in ships, probably they wouldn't be interested in contacting us. 70 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Anyway, we wouldn't receive any answers. 71 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,920 But we thought we'd try it. 72 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:54,920 You felt as if, for instance, perhaps it would be interesting only in contacting civil leaders 73 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,920 or the presidents of the country or great scientists? 74 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Well, yes, it didn't seem likely that there would be any reason for them to contact us. 75 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,920 That's how easily they would contact the heads of government and civil law leaders, 76 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,920 men in science and industry. 77 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,920 But you were successful in actually contacting spacecraft by radio. 78 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Yes, not at first, however. 79 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:32,920 I might say that after that evening of talking in Arizona, my son went home 80 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:40,920 and he contacted the friend of his and asked him if he would be interested in trying. 81 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Some time later, this radio man admitted that he had been interested in contacting other planets, 82 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,920 not so much sources, but other planets for several years. 83 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:03,920 The Federal Communications Commission several years ago when Mars came very close to Earth as it does, 84 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,920 there's a period there where it comes closer. 85 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:17,920 Somehow, on the hour, for five minutes, they had complete radio silence to see if any messages would come in from Mars. 86 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:23,920 They had many different things and had recorded these messages, which they have never been able to decode 87 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:30,920 in a series of dozen messages, but not in any system that we know. 88 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,920 And these records are in the global stands in Washington at this time. 89 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Well, these stories, this is to the end of the radio man. 90 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:52,920 And he had also heard of other hands who had been receiving space signals that they thought were coming from other planets or from spacecraft. 91 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 I see, well that's a very interesting story. 92 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Tell me now, how would you be in transmitting? How would you roll about calling a spacecraft from Mars, let's say? 93 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Well, I'm not sure the following has presented itself. 94 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Just exactly what would we say? What would we do? 95 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:27,920 And I might add that I cannot mention this radio man's name at this time because he did not hear his call letters in contacting these craft. 96 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:38,920 He didn't want any other operator that he could send any to know, but he was trying, perhaps, for his prestige in his own town or something. 97 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:46,920 I don't know, but he just wanted to do the work without that being run out at that time. 98 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:57,920 So we decided that we would send out a message without call letters that would be Earth calling any interested spacecraft. 99 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,920 Now those were not the exact words, but that was the gist of it. 100 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:08,920 And he tried that for a week or two without having any success whatsoever. 101 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:18,920 And then finally, it was on August 22nd, 1952 in the evening, that a very loud signal came in. 102 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:26,920 Now I'm not a radio man myself and I don't know the terminology very well, but I'll try to explain it the best way that I can. 103 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:33,920 A very loud signal came in and the radio man said that it blocked his set. 104 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:39,920 The way he explained it, that it blocked the entire set and was very loud. 105 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:45,920 By far the most powerful signal he had ever received on that set that he had. 106 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:57,920 As we mentioned, it came in, he took them down, but he felt that his friends were helping him, a little family joke. 107 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,920 But he went along with it, and took the message down. 108 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Well when we further turned to it, we felt that he was joking up a little bit. 109 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,920 So it was both ways, you see. 110 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,920 And he went along with it. 111 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,920 Yes. 112 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:23,920 And my other friend that I already mentioned that I had talked with in Arizona called me one day and told me he said we have had success. 113 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:32,920 And he said that the radio man is quite impressed, but he's not too sure yet of where he's getting the signals from. 114 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:40,920 I told my friend to tell the radio man to check by all means because it was true, we wanted it. 115 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,920 We wanted it very much, but it was pretty much while we wanted to know. 116 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:54,920 And it was someone's way to joke on us, perhaps someone that operated at whose is calling out, or is calling any spacecraft. 117 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,920 And they just thought that they would come in and have a little fun. 118 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,920 So we went in the north, it really was Jordan. 119 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Well I wonder how quick a person be sure of them that he did actually contact the spacecraft during extraterrestrial being. 120 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Well, I had a radio man, he had several ways of checking on it. 121 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:26,920 One night there were 67 people, friends and relatives, and he had a hand-knower outside his home in the backyard. 122 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:33,920 And without even telling his wife, his back was to this group, because he said he knew someone was born. 123 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:39,920 And he was on 40 meter band, transmitting. 124 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,920 And he asked a question, and immediately received an answer. 125 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Then very quickly he switched to 160 meter band and had another question, and an answer immediately came in. 126 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Now a lot of people in there, after he had time to think this over completely, 127 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:13,920 he told us that he had done this, and he said that that was true to him, that no one on Earth anyway, was joking, or sending him a hoax. 128 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Well certainly none of our operators would be able to switch over to another frequency. 129 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 And you're a questioner master, geographically. 130 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:33,920 No, as a radio man said, even if he had told the operator on the other end that he was going to switch from 40 to 160 meter band, 131 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:45,920 before the operator would have found him on 160, the question would have been asked, and of course naturally, if they hadn't heard the question they couldn't have answered. 132 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Well do you think that it might be possible that these people have some abilities in telepathy? 133 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,920 Well yes, that was our first thought. 134 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,920 The radio man, I asked him, how can it be possible then? 135 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,920 Is there any way it could be? 136 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:10,920 He said, well there are only two possibilities that suggest themselves to me. 137 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,920 One, telepathy. 138 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Two, these people being more intelligent than we are, 139 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:32,920 possibly have a radio which covers a very wide frequency, I guess you'd call it, or covers all of these bands, so they do not need to tune from one to another. 140 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Did you have any actual evidence, indisputable evidence as far as you are concerned, that these people are proficient in telepathy? 141 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:56,920 Yes, all of them, they gave us some invisible signs in the heavens, but I learned from that question first, one evening, 142 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:04,920 of course I might say that the logical thing would be to discontinue the radio as soon as possible, that was only an introduction, 143 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:12,920 proving to us the existence of these people in these craft, proving that the Flaring Saucers really are. 144 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:20,920 The next thing would be to try to arrange for a landing or a face-to-face, a personal contact. 145 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:30,920 We felt that since they had been good enough to answer our call and contact us, then possibly they were interested in the landing. 146 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:44,920 Still we do not understand why they would only come to us, and not others, who would be more in a foreign to spread this information, that we made arrangements for a landing. 147 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:56,920 After we had made these arrangements and had finished our contacts for the indies, we sat down to a cup of coffee, and there were six or seven people present at the time, 148 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:06,920 and we were not trying to experiment in telepathy, I must state that it was really accidental the way that it all happened. 149 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Without even thinking about it, we were certainly not able to stop. Six or seven of us thinking on the same thought. 150 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:31,920 The radio man's father-in-law had just come from Kansas City, and he's quite elderly, and not in very good health at this time. 151 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:43,920 The radio man's wife was worried about her father. She felt that he would go with us because he thought we were going on a picnic. 152 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Why the shock of seeing this hit might affect him, or perhaps they wouldn't even land because another party was present. 153 00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:01,920 And if he met you, the old gentleman would feel very bad because he felt that he did not want it because of his age. 154 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:07,920 So she really didn't know what to do about it, and was quite concerned over it. 155 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:14,920 So this is having a big sat around there drinking coffee, taking a minute around how it was all these problems. 156 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:29,920 Well, after about 40 minutes, and I might add that our set was still on, we were still on the frequency that we had been receiving messages, although the transmission key was off. 157 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:38,920 And he had not sent out anything over the wire, asking what to do on this problem. 158 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,920 You were merely sitting around concentrating on this problem? 159 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,920 Yes, nothing had been sent out, asking what to do about the father. 160 00:17:47,920 --> 00:18:03,920 When suddenly, this very loud signal came in again, saying, and now about the father, and gave a complete diagnosis of the father's case, 161 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,920 which was verified one or two days later by a doctor that they took him to, 162 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:19,920 and gave all the messages about what to do for the father, and how this handled it for him. 163 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,920 That is most amazing. 164 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,920 Yes, it is. 165 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,920 Unless you had gone through it, it is very difficult to believe. 166 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:36,920 Then it is established beyond a doubt that they can hear people talking in their homes without being there, and they can read this thought. 167 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,920 Yes, undoubtedly. 168 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Imagine many of us would be ashamed of ourselves only for waiting for that knowledge. 169 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,920 Can you tell us a little something of the science in the sky which you mentioned? 170 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Yes, I feel that that is one of the most important things in this entire happening, 171 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:13,920 because it shows that the other side, or these people in these soldiers, were interested also in proving to us all the authenticity of our contact, 172 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,920 and to let us know exactly who we were in contact with. 173 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,920 One night on the radio, the radio man asked, 174 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,920 can you give us a sign to moral? 175 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:35,920 Immediately, the answer came in, and I will read it exactly as we received it on the transcription. 176 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Yes, yes. 177 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:47,920 Maybe if you can get a glass, can you buy solace at high time? 178 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,920 Then, where they mentioned the word solace, does that refer to our son? 179 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Yes, and if we were thinking of the way we would read it, it would be yes, yes. 180 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Maybe if you can get a telescope, can you be by his son at noon? 181 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,920 Well, that's interesting. 182 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Did you miss observations the next day? 183 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,920 Yes, I did. 184 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,920 Well, Linovitz had a telescope, and we didn't know quite what to do, 185 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:26,920 but the next day, he was in all of the papers, and you might have seen it, 186 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:34,920 Bob Wilson observed very large sunspots on the sun at noon, 187 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,920 and it was odd because it was in a period of declining sunspot activity, 188 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:47,920 and by the next day, these large sunspots were gone, were used in the month or so. 189 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:56,920 And also, at noon, a large fleet of saucers were observed over human areas over, 190 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:08,920 and there was a jet plane in connection with it that crashed, and the cause of this was unknown. 191 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,920 Well, this is really interesting. 192 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:17,920 Well, I do know of the scientists myself that sunspots often last at least 30 days. 193 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,920 Yes. 194 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,920 Then perhaps they didn't take their spacecraft close to the star. 195 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Yes, that is possible. 196 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:38,920 Did you receive any information in these radio contacts which would tell you what planets the people were from that you contacted? 197 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:44,920 One of the most interesting, and first of all, I'll mention our own planet Earth. 198 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,920 As the messages came in, they would say, 199 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:56,920 Collins, Saras, and they spelled it F-A-R-A-S, or OS, 200 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,920 and we finally told them to the fact that they were calling us, 201 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,920 and that was at least one of their words for this Earth. 202 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,920 I did a little research on that. I had never had any hopes that I would find that word, 203 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,920 but I wanted to know why they would use that in contact years. 204 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:27,920 And I found in the ancient Tel-Dian language that this word means repetition, or repetition of cataclysm. 205 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,920 And so you can then receive why they would give our Earth that name, 206 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:40,920 because they have had many catastrophes in the past, continental catastrophes on Earth. 207 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:50,920 Also, they used the word, when speaking of Mars, M-A-S-A-R, or Marsaur. 208 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:58,920 I have never found where the word originated, perhaps it is one of their own words. 209 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:05,920 We know that we have been in contact, at least with the current, 210 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:16,920 and I have too, that so many people feel that they must have a very unusual equipment to be able to contact another planet. 211 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:23,920 There was a moving, reasonably, event-type of Mars, which involved a very complicated hydrogen valve 212 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,920 and extended equipment to be able to do this type of work. 213 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:37,920 However, I believe that our messages from this handshake were relayed from these ships and then on to the planets. 214 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,920 Of course, they would have the knowledge to be able to do this. 215 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:51,920 They started contacting Mars directly, not only the ships that we have contacted Mars directly, 216 00:23:51,920 --> 00:24:01,920 also we have had contact with Jupiter, which has been relayed from Mars and from there on to a ship and to our station. 217 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:10,920 Also, we have had contact with Saturn, and we have had contact not directly with Venus, 218 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:17,920 but we have had mention of it, and yes, one ship was sending another ship from Venus, 219 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,920 and we have also had, and I think this is one of the most amazing things, 220 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:32,920 we have had contact with ships from several other solar systems besides the home. 221 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:43,920 This is really amazing, it's getting to the point now where the story of the sausage is perhaps the most important story that has ever come to this earth. 222 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:57,920 Yes, I think it is because perhaps these people with greater intelligence have the answers that mankind has been searching for for centuries. 223 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:04,920 Perhaps you could give us a little light on the question that I sure bother most people, 224 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,920 to give you any indication why they have come here and such large numbers at this time. 225 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:20,920 Yes, while I might add this, that the messages were very friendly and were given the wordings, 226 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:30,920 and the nature of the messages would make you immediately think of the very money father giving his guys to his child. 227 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:40,920 There was none of the note of an authoritarian nature, or one of the giving orders, 228 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:50,920 and while they were not suddenly getting there very firm also, and almost some of the staff of our radio messages, 229 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:58,920 there was the indication that they have been alerted because of our time with external matters, 230 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:08,920 and although they have been coming here for many hundreds of years, and in some cases it lessens if they have been coming for several thousand years. 231 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:18,920 Two years, but they have not wanted to interfere before in the progress that man is making on this planet earth here. 232 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:32,920 But recently, because of the atomic experiments, they have shown themselves more, and are really very concerned over this work. 233 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:41,920 Well, has they made any mention as to why they are so concerned about our atomic bomb explosions? 234 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,920 Is there any danger that we are in? 235 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:57,920 Well, in our radio messages almost immediately from the beginning, and they told us and repeated it many many times, 236 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:05,920 that our earth is off his orbit at this time somewhat, and is also lifting. 237 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,920 To back this up, I might mention what we have discovered here on earth ourselves. 238 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:23,920 About a year or two ago, there was considerable mention of the great pile up of ice at the North and the South poles. 239 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:36,920 And we were thinking of redistributing this ice and to alleviate this problem of using atomic bombs to loosen it. 240 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,920 And the planet was getting in our state of top heavy at that time. 241 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,920 We also, to back this thing up, we know of the strange weather that we have had all over the world. 242 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,920 We have had drought in places where there has always been abundant rain. 243 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,920 We have had a terrific amount of rainfall. 244 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,920 I know this from my own state of the art and bone of that. 245 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:10,920 Over the past seven years, we have had very little rain and the water level has gone down considerably, 246 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,920 and people were getting very concerned over this, the rancors and so on. 247 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:26,920 But this last year we have had a great abundance of rain, and we are continuing to get a great abundance of moisture in Arizona. 248 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,920 That is a true hour over these strange weather conditions throughout the world. 249 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:41,920 Also, you can hardly pick up a daily newspaper without reading about earthquakes or many volcanic eruptions throughout the world. 250 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Tidal waves and so on, which all go in to back up the statement that these people have made on their radio contacts about the present conditions on earth. 251 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:06,920 Well, then our atomic bomb explosions must have been putting our earth as a planet into some, what, of an unstable condition. 252 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:16,920 And then these face travelers are not here just for a vacation, but there is a serious situation that exists here. 253 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Yes, they have told us that a very poor condition exists on earth kind of earth at this time. 254 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Now we know that they have told us that they are here to aid us to help us, but also that if anything happens to earth, 255 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,920 it may very seriously damage the other planets in our system. 256 00:29:49,920 --> 00:30:01,920 As we know, each planet is in a state of balance in connection with the other planets, its neighbors. 257 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:16,920 And in so likely that if great disasters occur in earth, even perhaps the planet is tiling, that it might damage our life, another world also. 258 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,920 Well, that really is a serious situation. 259 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:33,920 On my head, I have noticed myself that we have had an increase in the size and number of sunspots, usually the day after each of the atomic explosions. 260 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:50,920 And from our past studies, and 200 years back, we know that a large sunspot number always gives us a reason why or another here, usually in the way of Johnson or Quartz and volcanic activity, the way you mentioned. 261 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,920 So that seems to give us a really much reason why they are here. 262 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:04,920 Didn't you at all tend to have any somewhat detailed information from them as to what advances they are making in science? 263 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:17,920 Yes, and I remember following this, I was very interested of course, and very excited about the possibility of contacting members of some of their planets. 264 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:26,920 And I was most interested in what type of culture, and whether there is something out there, a sociological background. 265 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:40,920 And we asked the question, had they made any great advancements in medical science, we know now that we are trying to conquer cancer, air and polio and so on. 266 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:53,920 And it would be a wonderful thing if we could receive information from these people, because they would only require cannabis, and perhaps they had covered these diseases. 267 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,920 So we asked that question and they answered, no. 268 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:08,920 We were puzzled and asked, well you have a blood and body head of us in other things, why haven't you advanced in medical science? 269 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,920 And they came in and said, well that is very simple, no disease. 270 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,920 And this is synchromated. 271 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Yes, it is the fact that there are spacecraft in our atmosphere at this time, it is really astounding in itself, but not literally. 272 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,920 So astounding as the message that these people have to raise. 273 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,920 And it is a wonderful message for men on this planet. 274 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Could you give us an estimate on approximately how many years they are ahead of us in advancements in culture and science and so on? 275 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:59,920 And yesterday it just so happened that we did ask that, and they came back with this reply. 276 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:10,920 We do not think of time as you do, and do not reckon in days, months, and years as you people on Earth do. 277 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:23,920 But considering your use of years, Mars would be approximately 30,000 years in advancement of Earth, 278 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:30,920 and Venus would be about 50,000 years ahead of Earth in progress. 279 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:41,920 And the other planets, the other planets going from Jupiter, Saturn, and so on would be even in greater advancements. 280 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:54,920 And there is indication that men, our solar systems are very far in advancement and back, getting up so that they are putting caddy in the cult. 281 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,920 It would be millions and millions of years ahead of us. 282 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:10,920 And this is really amazing, and as far as we have thought we have advanced, it now begins to appear as if we are on the bottom of the scale of the fast. 283 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:24,920 As far as our own solar system, and from what we have received in these radio messages, the planet Earth at one time was advanced. 284 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:32,920 We have mentioned this at times, or the golden age on Earth, there is much more that is made to that. 285 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,920 We find that in anthropology. 286 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:45,920 And religions go that minute at that time were able to speak with angels, and they were very close to their Creator. 287 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:57,920 But now, there is very indication that the planet Earth is right on the bottom, as far as other planets in our own system are concerned.